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PokerGuru
17.07.2007, 08:42

Crusher Pride: Our own Guru at 2007 WSOP!
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My dear Poker Crushers!

Before I even give the individual thank-yous to all the Crushers to whom they are due for their cooperation and actions in my absence, I am going to cut right to the bottom line.....to what I THINK you all are most interested in finding out:  How did I do in this years WSOP?  Am I correct in guessing that is what you first want to know....for those of you who have not (in some way I could not figure out how) already know?

Okay.  Here are the bare, unadulterated facts:  I came closer this year even than last year in bringing that World Championship home to where it belongs -- to my loyal Crushers, especially the Poker Crushers, but to all the Crushers in the CRUSHER KINGDOM!  Casino-Crush as well as Poker-Crush.  After all, we are ALL loyal Crushers!

Of the more than 8000 players who made it all the way to the final event, just as I did, I managed to beat out ALMOST 8000 of them!  All by following my own rules in my own lessons to a "T", without exception.

At the end of Day 3B, which was actually the 6th day of playing extremely long hours, we played until after midnight and when the day was called to a halt, as unbelieving as I was, I WAS STILL IN THE REMAINING GROUP OF PLAYERS!  Scheduled to start again the next morning.  Which I did.  All of us remaining did.

I had seen in the last couple of days some of the best players and biggest names in poker eliminated!  Some of them pitched a fit, but most lost graciously and walked out with their heads still high for coming as far as they had.

After a too-short break around noon, there had been more eliminations, but, miraculously, I was still hanging in there.  I was in the last approximately 900 players from all over the world who had not yet busted out, as had far more than 7000 others who had started this main event with me ... the last event.

I was exhausted.  Everybody was.  It is an agonizing test of endurance!

THEN....late in the afternoon, the hammer fell.  And your Guru was the one it hit.  After 6 days of playing, I busted out... and lost all chances of a gold bracelet or the championship for the Crusher World in 2007!

I am truly very, very sorry.  To come that close....and then lose..... Well, I can only say I'm sorry.  I don't think I had made a single mistake until then.  And I was actually beginning to think that this year just might be the year for the Crushers to claim it all!  

But I did lose graciously, congratulated the S.O.B. (joking, almost) who beat me, had a few Margaritas, my first drinks since I had been there, walked back to my room, and collapsed onto the bed where I slept for almost 24 straight hours.  The lovely lady who had accompanied me for the duration of the entire experience was at her wit's end as whether to awaken me or not.  I am very glad she let me sleep until I awakened on my own and naturally.  I am a believer in one's body knowing best what it needs most and first!

Now.  For those of you interested in the details of how I lost....I will never forget that hand we played!

I had a pair of Kings in the hole.  My third King came out in the flop....with all the rest low cards of differing suits, including a pair of fives which gave me a full house!  Kings full of fives.  No other face cards and no Aces!

Everybody folded except one cowboy who called All-In.  And myself.  I knew he could not have 3 of anything higher than my Kings, no matter what he had to go with them.  I knew he could not possibly have a straight.  I knew he could not possibly have a flush.  I knew he could not possibly have a higher full house.  Now let me ask you:  Would you have folded at that point?  Of course not, and neither did I!  I figured he probably had, with the two fives on the table, two pairs:  Aces and fives.  And so I called.

He was holding the other two fives and beat my beautiful full house with four 5's.

And that, my dearest friends, was it.  The end of the trail for me.

Last year, Orange Crush dried away my tears and was a great comfort when I busted out.  Bless her.

This year, I have no tears;  only sadness that I have disappointed you, my faithful ones.  As far as my own state of mind, I am all-in-all  generally happy with my playing.  And I know I did give it the best of everything I had to give.  Never lost patience, never lost the ability to think, not even when the extremely bold ESPN TV cameras were EVERYWHERE and seemed so often to be right in my face when I was trying to think.  I didn't mind the close-ups, but it sure tested my powers of concentration.

So here I am, presenting myself back to you, my rising flock with guilded wings, with my tail a little bit between my legs, but a hopeful wish in my heart for a better year still coming.  I thank my Creator that it is you -- my Crushers and scholars -- to who I am returning.  If for no other reason, just to show you well in a truly good lesson, that you should never succumb to depression for ever losing a game!!!!  It just happens.  The numbers and odds do go awry some times and.....well,  chit happens!

To Geno, my everlasting gratitude for a contract that allows me to leave at any time on a moment's notice or even no notice at all!  A marvelous and highly principled English gentleman!  With never-ending innovative talent that keeps him in the vanguard of modern technology....and ahead of it in generosity!

To OrangeCrush and RoyalCrush....whatever would I do without their constant assistance and their willingness to take on my share of the behind-the-scenes work with my every absence to pursue that elusive dream?  And with never a word of complaint, but always more than a word of encouragement.

To our dedicated member Spookth, who posted (and I quote)  " It falls upon us, in the Guru's absence, to encourage the new members"  and many more responsible words and actions.

And to ALL of you, my beloved members, who not only do exactly that, but also manage to always come up with ways of keeping our site moving onward and upward in such an excellent way, that new members are bound to wonder what value one more missing member, called a Guru, could possibly offer!

I am indebted to all of you and not one individual Crusher's value will I ever overlook or forget!

This is OUR family-style, proud, and highly regarded forum, with its doors wide open to anyone who is willing to make an effort to live up to our standards, set by the members themselves!

Thank you for taking the time to read another one of my personal episodes in the life of a player of the game!

Your ever-lovin' PokerGuru

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Bower50
17.07.2007, 15:21


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Welcome home and congratulations on your great showing at the WSOP.
You did us all and yourself proud.As for your final hand you played it perfectly,just as you taught us.He had the only 2 cards in the deck that could beat you.You went with the percentages just as any great poker player would.
In response to"You should never succumb to depression for ever losing a game".Playing the way you taught us we never "lose" a game,we just don't win them all.We win at every game we play by learning more.

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allight
17.07.2007, 16:02


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Wow......what an experience and waht a great showing amongst the best poker players in the world. And certainly no shame in losing Kings full to 4 fives. Who could get away from that hand?! You must be so proud of yourself Guru despite the disappointment of getting so far and not bring home the gold. Congratulations on a phenomonel tourney!!!!

P.S. You know that hand will have to be the Degree Allin Moment on ESPN....lol.....Norman Chad and Lon MacCarren (spelling????) will be going nuts!

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royalblush
17.07.2007, 21:26


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Our dear Guru ~

I have never been prouder to be one of your scholars -- and I have never been prouder to be a Poker-Crusher!

CONGRATULATIONS!  You were fantastic in your performance at the WSOP!

P.S.  Thank you for allowing me to name the title for your report to us.

royalblush

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beckie33
17.07.2007, 21:29


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Poker Guru...first and foremost you are NOT in any way a dissapointment!!!  You are striving for greatness and sometimes it takes scholars a lifetime to achieve it... you are great just for hanging in there year after year,,, hour after hour trying to achieve the ultimate goal of winning the WSOP and I KNOW one day you will!!!

I was reading an article today about winners in the past that have gone through all of their millions and are now broke... very sad!

I am very proud of you and WELCOME HOME!!!


Beckie

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char1984
17.07.2007, 23:47


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:D  :D A Dissapointment??more like an IDOL.you are in my thoughts and your lessons are in my thoughts in any poker game I play in..Sounds like you could not have done any better and way to go to how far you did make it :D  :D You are the best :D  :D

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spookth
18.07.2007, 00:50


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Guru.....you absolutely have NOT disappointed any of your faithful Crushers. Exactly the opposite is true in fact. You have made us the proudest poker forum anywhere. You made it through 6 full days and one part day of the most gruelling poker tournament anywhere on the planet.
     I can't imagine any poker player anywhere ,that is worth his salt, that would play that hand any differently.
    Guru, we all wait patiently while your poker career must take priority. The reason we all wait and try to keep PC running while you are away is because all of us have profited tremendously from your lessons.
    GURU....you are absolutely the best!!!!

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ergopro
19.07.2007, 06:33


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Congrats Guru!
You got in the cash then...how much you got?
As 621 got paid this year and about 350 started Day 4...So you must've been eliminated around 200th-150th? Correct?

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PokerGuru
20.07.2007, 09:23


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TO:

Bower50

Allight

Royalblush

Beckie33

Char1984

Spookth

Ergopro


My dear Special Ones!

Your words in reply to me about my report on WSOP  mean more to me than ever being there did!

THANK YOU!

Your Guru

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ergopro
20.07.2007, 15:00


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You got in the cash then...how much you got?
You played day 4, so you must've been eliminated around 200th-150th? Correct? :D

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ergopro
23.07.2007, 11:26


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Anyone know answer to this one?
It seems Guru is too shy to reply this one :D

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kaska321
23.07.2007, 20:51

WTG
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CONGRATULATIONS Poker Guru  :!:  :!:  :!: 
You were fantastic in your performance at the WSOP  :!:  :!:

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ergopro
24.07.2007, 03:47


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I'd still like to know what that performance was? :D
If it was day 4 he made, how much cash he won...as then he would've been around place 200th to 150th? Anyone?

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mojojds
24.07.2007, 11:12

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I can understand your curiosity on what # he finished and how much money he won ...ergopro....Maybe will just go with what u said 150th to 200th place.



All I know is he played an EXCELLENT  game and will always  be placed at #1 here at Poker Crush!!


Please Be Proud For Yourself Poker Guru ..Because We Are All Proud Of You  


Congratulations To You ....You Are Truley An INSPIRATION To Us All!!

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PokerGuru
24.07.2007, 15:23


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Kaska

and

Mojo


Thank you so very much for those words!  They mean the world to me!

My Poker Crushers have become my greatest inspiraion to always try my very best.  I thank you for that!

(And Mojo was serious!!!!!!!!!!  What a shock!  LMBO!)

Your lovin' Guru

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ergopro
24.07.2007, 17:20


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Of the more than 8000 players who made it all the way to the final 

event, just as I did, I managed to beat out ALMOST 8000 of them!


There was only 6358 players this year.

At the end of Day 3B, which was actually the 6th day of playing 

extremely long hours, we played until after midnight and when the day 

was called to a halt, as unbelieving as I was, I WAS STILL IN THE 

REMAINING GROUP OF PLAYERS! Scheduled to start again the next morning. 

Which I did. All of us remaining did. 

There was no day 3B (only day 3) and day 3 was the 7th day of play this 

year.

After a too-short break around noon, there had been more eliminations, 

but, miraculously, I was still hanging in there. I was in the last 

approximately 900 players from all over the world who had not yet 

busted out, as had far more than 7000 others who had started this main 

event with me ... the last event. 

Only 337 players survived day 3 this year.
And as you were thru half of the day it must've been around 150th to 
200th when eliminated if so.
As only 112 made it thru to day 4.

This is why I asked of your finishing position, which you must know as 

you made it to cash :) Btw, play starts at noon daily...so why's there a break then? :D

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PokerGuru
24.07.2007, 19:12


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Alright, Ergo!  ALRIGHT!  Are you sure, my friend, that you don't have some pitbull in you?  LOL!

I like you, Ergo, from your contest entries, since that's about all I have to go on, so believe me, I have nothing against your questions, BUT..........Must I REALLY go thru all these tedious LITTLE matters to your satisfaction?  

And why....WHY......do you seem obsessed with this matter?

Well, I will answer your questions.  I don't want you to agonize over details.  But the one I will NOT answer is the one asked with a surprising (from YOU) lack of taste:  How much money do I have.  I would not even CONSIDER asking you to divulge in public the contents of your personal checkbook and wallet.

As for the rest, point by boring point:  (I thought I was finally thru with this event and could relax, but for YOU, a member in good standing, I will relive it all!  PLEASE appreciate it!  LMBO!)

Point #1:  8000 players or 6350 ?   ANSWER:  More than 8000 had qualified and most of them, but not all, showed up the first day.  Of those, some were besieged with a type of stage fright and could not perform.  Of the rest, many lasted only an hour or less and were generously given the option of not being embarrassed by being defeated so quickly and having their names deleted from the record.  OKAY, ERGO?

Point #2:  Day 3A, 3B, 6th or 7th ?   ANSWER:  The schedule is day-numbered in a very complex way by the Commissioner's committee and no player I know pays much attention.  When they say PLAY!  we play and when they say BREAK! we break, period.  Since we played about 12 hours each and every day (ever tried it, Ergo?) we were doing well to be led to and from the tables by our managers at the right times, and could care less about their numbering system.  But in an attempt to be detailed as possible in my report, I tried to keep track of the numbering system, the LEAST important thing on my mind, and I obviously was not perfect with it.  I apologize about that to you, who must have been sitting comfortably at home keeping track of everything, getting regular hours of sleep and meals, etc.  I'M SORRY!  Next year I will forget the darn day numbers!

Point #3:  Why a break  and starting time ?  ANSWER:  Ergo, have you ever sat at a poker table with big money riding on your good thinking and concentration to the point that your every muscle was tense and also sore from being tense the day before and had to sit there making big decisions for 12 hors in a row without a break?  Call it lunch, call it tea, call it coffee break, it WAS a break and it WAS too short.  As for the time, poker players who do it for a living normally play late at night and a mid-afternoon break SEEMS like a lunch break, since that is when you can stuff something in your mouth and wash it down with coffee, hope you can keep it down, that it will give you enough energy, and head back quickly for MANY MORE LONG HOURS of the same work.  (The playing;  excuse me.)

Point #4:  Repeated and repeated without any sign of ettiquette.....How much money:  ANSWER:  None of your damn business!


Now please excuse me while I go type 2 lessons for Crushers before I have to head out to the airport for an another overnighter game.

Okay, Ergopro?  If not, PLEASE tell somebody ELSE!

P.S.  You are still one of my rooster fledgings from whom I expect big things and I hope our posts in this thread (which I tried to avoid) will not in any way make a difference in our friendship or admiration for each other!  I appreciate your great talents and would like very much to remain close to you as your

PokerGuru

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beckie33
24.07.2007, 21:24


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Wow... Ergo...may I ask why you posted that??  What are you trying to gain?  I have to say that came as a shock to me  :shock:

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spookth
25.07.2007, 00:24


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:shock:  :shock:  :shock:

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ergopro
25.07.2007, 02:55


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I'm not trying to gain anything...I've just been listening a lot of this magnificent WSOP achievement and wanted to what it actually was.
And wasn't answered.

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mojojds
25.07.2007, 03:14

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Well since my last posting was a serious side to Mojo (no humor in it at all)


Let's try this posting......


Ergopro ...why no play in the next WSOP   and then you can tell us ...

How many players played?
How many days you got to play?
How many breaks you got?
What time were your breaks?
What did you do on your breaks?
What # did you place?
How much money you earned?
Who sat at each table you were at?
Who did you take with you?
and most of all...
What did you wear for each day or night you were there?


UMMMM ....Until you are able to answer ALL OF THE ABOVE QUESTIONS YOURSELF...Then why even question someone (POKER GURU) who can?


Maybe your a spokesperson for CAPITAL ONE CREDIT CARD..you know


WHATS IN YOUR WALLET??  

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ergopro
25.07.2007, 03:17


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I could do all that and more...it's no problem. As Guru must know :)

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ergopro
25.07.2007, 03:18


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So I just asked Guru the same questions he mocked askme with...
And didn't get any answers but a page-long article on something than WSOP.

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ergopro
25.07.2007, 03:22


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I mean the "Ask Me"-thread and the person who was so nicely complimented there...

And for the moderators...you can delete my account.
This conversation is going nowhere, but I am.

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ergopro
25.07.2007, 03:45


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And just a short notice on me saying "I could do that and more".
I don't mean I'd easily qualify to WSOP but the fact that if I did I'd probably even know how much the mints on the pillow weigh.
Enjoy your summer, folks and was about to say see you around, but we probably won't :D
Take care, those that know whom this sentence was meant to!

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mojojds
25.07.2007, 03:51

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OH MY GOD

Delete your account..over what?


Poker Guru didnt tell you what # he placed or how much he won?

If you dont think what he is telling us is true about his experience at the WSOP ..then  that is your choice ..of course.

But for those of us that do believe in what he is saying (and I bet I  can speak for ALL dedicated Crushers) 

We really dont need to know what # he placed or how much he won...Not really important to us.

What is important to us is....he was there...he played...and we are all proud of him!!

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Poppy
25.07.2007, 14:36


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I know this is none of my business as I know NOTHING of the WSOP ... 

I'd would just like to say ...

CALM DOWN ppl before more stuff will be said / written which will be for sure regretted later on. 

Everyone has a right to their opinion. 
Also remember - there is "the freedom of speech", but we should always use it wisely :) 

IMHO - It would be boring if everyone always were in 100% agreement with EVERYTHING. 
I wouldn't personally wanna live in the "yes yes" - world where no-one dares to disagree or ask questions. 
With our opinions we all are at times right and sometimes even wrong - USUALLY we do learn from our mistakes (when being wrong) ... 
Atleast those of us do (learn) who are in their "right mind" and understand the BASIC things in life / how to treat other people etc ... 

This is only my opinion, of course ... others might and by all means - feel free to disagree if you like.

With saying this - I have my own opinion and no matter what it might be I am going to be a diplomat > keep it to myself - no need for more bashing ppl here to one way or another. 

PEACE & LOVE EVERYONE!
  

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PokerGuru
25.07.2007, 14:52


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I like you, Ergo.   

WHY......do you seem obsessed with this matter?

(I thought I was finally thru with this event and could relax, but for YOU, a member in good standing, I will relive it all!  PLEASE appreciate it!  LMBO!)

 OKAY, ERGO?

  When they say PLAY!  we play and when they say BREAK! we break, period.  Since we played about 12 hours each and every day (ever tried it, Ergo?) 

 Ergo, have you ever sat at a poker table with big money riding on your good thinking and concentration to the point that your every muscle was tense and also sore from being tense the day before and had to sit there making big decisions for 12 hors in a row without a break?  

You are still one of my rooster fledgings from whom I expect big things and I hope our posts in this thread (which I tried to avoid) will not in any way make a difference in our friendship or admiration for each other!  I appreciate your great talents and would like very much to remain close to you as your

PokerGuru


Dear Ergo, whom I still respect and want very badly to remain a Poker Crusher,

Have you forgotten all the things in my quote above, which I sincerely posted to you when I replied to your post?  (And now think I probably should have continued to NOT reply!)

I still mean those things.  

I cannot help but think you were just having some bad days, and I really do not mind taking the brunt of whatever caused your bad state of mind.  Just another service to my members.

But, Ergo, I am TERRIBLY confused by your sudden turn-around to a state of real anger!  Again, I have to ask you WHY??????

I have tried to recall every word I have ever posted to you, and I know they were ALL very kind and very caring and even very respectful and appreciative to you.

So PLEASE, Ergo, please tell me why you felt the need to attack my integrity?  I have absolutely never given you a reason to.  So what WAS the reason?  I don't mind admitting it hurts me deeply......and I still hope the situation can be mended and our relationship can be saved.  I value you, and always have, as a PC member.

I want very badly for you to remain a valued member.  I know you have a kind and helpful-oriented heart when you are yourself in your normal state of mind.

So I am apologizing to you for whatever caused such a turn-around in your feelings and asking you to please accept my apology and remain a member.  I also REQUEST of you that you try to explain why you turned against me so venomously.

Stay home, Ergo.  No reason for you to leave!

Sincerely, Your PokerGuru still, the same as always on my side.

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allight
25.07.2007, 17:00


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You're a more patient man than I am Guru....Ergo is so obsessed about this thing I'd grant his wish and delete his account, but I applaud you for your patience and willingness to to give a PCer another chance....It's all much ado about nothing and frankly, ergo needs to get a life if this is what he dwells on day after day lately. You've proven you integrity more than once on this site, Guru, and Ergo has no right whatsoever to question it. If he wants to go elsewhere that's his mistake and his loss for what you and PC has to offer.

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mojojds
25.07.2007, 17:21

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I AGREE WITH YOU 100% ALLIGHT...

lol yes you heard me Allight ..I AGREE WITH YOU

(NOW GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER ..WHILE I WORK THE OTHER ONE)   LMAO

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Poppy
25.07.2007, 19:32


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IMO - it's up to Guru what he wants to do with ergo's account and to my opinion we all can scew up, but deserve a second chance. 

This is in-between Guru and ergo and I won't judge anyone - it's not my place to do so. 

Never the less - this negativity just bothers me ...

I say this much - ergo is a fellow Finn and I've learned to know him well. He's not a bad person at all. He's been great and always helpful to me.
Too bad if Guru and myself are the only ppl to remember that.
No offense to anyone - just my opinion, again.

Again - PEACE, LOVE and G O O D, POSITIVE thinking, please!

THE END!

I'm done with this topic and just hope all works out for the best as I think we all should.
   

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royalblush
27.07.2007, 05:56


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Almost ALL of us Crushers hate negativity.  That is one of the most essential things that sets us apart from other forums.

But I must say that if I had the bad taste to ask someone "How much you got?"  (translates to "What's in your personal wallet?") over and over and over again and that person simply made no comment, I would, bad taste and all, take the hint and simply let it drop.

I most certainly would never post as rude a message as ergopro did, which actually forced our Guru to stop discreetly overlooking the low-class question and make a reply, altho he obviously did not want to, in order to defend his integrity, which never should have been questioned, especially by a Crusher!!!!!

This is so unlike the ergopro I thought I knew that I can't help but wonder if someone stold his identity and made those posts.

I don't see how anyone could fault our Guru for his response.  He has proved his remarkable integrity many times over and one would have to be be blind or brand new here not to have known that.  To attack his honor that way was far more tasteless than the original question.

I hope with all my heart that ergopro soon realizes that he over-reacted and backed Guru into a corner where he had no choice but to respond as he did.  And then returns to the ergopro I have always known and liked and remembers he is a Crusher.

Then he will know the only appropriate thing to do.

royalblush

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pothole88
29.08.2007, 20:13


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I think when you plough through so many days, bust so many players and come so close, the money doesn't matter. I would'a been so crushed (no pun intended) of having come so far to have busted out like that I wouldn't play another game for weeks. No way in the world of getting away from the hand. I hope this post doesn't re-live bad memories, the positive I take from it is, crepe happens, in poker it happens on a daily basis.

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PokerGuru
05.09.2007, 19:54


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Thank you, pothole!

I value your input and it brought only positive feelings my way.

You do have a good understanding of "the way it is".

By the way, I am happy to formally welcome you to Poker-Crush.  I hope you will become a regular with us, as we begin a new growth spurt.

Sincerely,

Your PokerGuru
