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ojisplayin - 04.03.2010, 00:10
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Reasons NOT To Bluff

Bluffing should probably not be an automatic reaction. When doing it keep in mind that everyone else is also looking for an opportunity to bluff. Remember! It only works when you get away with it, so you must use it sparingly.



HERE ARE SOME TIMES WHEN YOU OUTRIGHT SHOULD NOT BLUFF:

A.When players expect you to.
Don't be the fish. That's a common money-maker for the other players. Always consider this rule before attempting a bluff.

B.When you've been caught bluffing recently.
You've been labeled as a poor bluffer already. Ride it out. Let them forget that hand. Start rebuilding a reputation as a straight player so you can eventually try a bluff again later (and hopefully not screw it up again).

C. Against a dangerous flop.
If the flop has an Ace, chances are that someone has a pair of aces. Aces tend to make it beyond preflop. Also, players tend to continue to play their Aces. Don't bluff against Aces. You also wouldn't want to bluff against a flop like K,Q,9. Chances are someone has something they'll stick with.

D. Against lots of players.
Chances are that someone has something that they'll stick with. From an odds perspective, this is never worth it.

E. You just lost a big hand or have lost a series of hands.
Not only might you be on tilt, but other players will expect you to be on tilt, and will more readily call you.

F. You limped in, or are in a blind position.
You really have to evaluate the flop, but generally other players will think you have a poor hand and expect you to bluff.



Everyone please read and post your opinion and/or tell us another situation not to bluff.



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ojisplayin - 04.03.2010, 07:16
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Bump!
win4maw - 04.03.2010, 13:15
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Not being really a poker player, I don't bluff (TOO DUMB) And I can't tell when someone else's bluffing (TOO DUMB)

win4maw
anneandalan - 04.03.2010, 15:12
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I dont bluff if I dont feel lucky. that is probably not a hard and fast rule, but it works for me!

And I think its generally a bad idea for me to bluff in a low stack position...or towards the end of a tourney. this is probably the absolutely incorrect answer lol
msfilly - 05.03.2010, 00:57
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I have bluffed and it worked out badly for me so I agree with the examples why not too and have adopted the practice of not bluffing
allight - 05.03.2010, 03:12
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don't bluff unless you have a pretty good read that the player you're up against will have to fold
slotmom - 07.03.2010, 21:12
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I have bluffed and I would do it again
valeria - 08.03.2010, 04:07
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I have bluffed and won but I can't remember why I bluffed cuz it has been quite awhile now. Though I obviously thought it was the way to go at the time.

All the reasons to not to bluff you pretty well covered them all.

Oh and I wouldn't bluff if someone playing has a much larger stack than mine. Obviously they could wipe me out and not break a sweat.
dmoney644 - 09.03.2010, 04:50
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another time you shouldn't bluff is when you get moved to a new table. You have to remember that the 1 1/2 hours you just played grinding poker at the last table, setting up the perfect opportunity to make a bluff is all out the window now.


You are fresh at the table, no one has been playing with you since the beginning, so they don't know how you play. They will assume you are just the next fish in their way to that FT. You must regroup, and start playing solid poker to set yourself up for a bluff opportunity later on at that table.

Also, you never really want to EVER!!!! stone cold bluff allin at anytime, this means that you mearly have missed everything all the way to the river and now you are going for a bluff with just high card, or barely bottom pair on the board. It rarely works out in your favor and can cost you your tournament life.

Also, if you have bluffed a couple times in a row, you need to know, sometimes players will take a stand against players they think are bluffing way too much and call you down even if their hand isn't that strong. Problem is, even though their hand may not be strong, its probable better than yours.

So try not to bluff too often if you feel you must bluff. Try to keep it to around a 1-2% minimum bluff average or even not at all unless you know they players well enough that you are bluffing.
Pegeesue - 18.03.2010, 05:01
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I've found to never bluff against a player who's sitting in the "hot seat". Because no matter what they have they know their in the lucky seat and will call with just about nothing and chances are, their cards will turn. I know for a fact that if i'm in the hot seat and my cards keep turning up no matter what I have, i'm going to see it to the end. I'm sure all who play poker quite a bit have seen or been in that situation.
shirlsplay - 18.03.2010, 21:38
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am a good example why not to bluff.lol.i've tried it many times and never worked out.I thought at first that was what you were suppose to do.when am playing am always thinking that a player is bluffing and i get taken down,lol.that's probably why i suck at poker.all your reasons why not to bluff make sense to me.
PUZTIME - 21.03.2010, 14:49
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I have bluffed and won when playing poker with friends

But Online Poker Software Scares Me LOL ..

So don't Bluff - If I don't think I have a chance to win

afulk8 - 23.03.2010, 11:51
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There is always someone who is going to know you're lying-or who always thinks you're bluffing-and that will be the person who calls you..I bluff sometimes, but I have to have something-or the cards on the board to make it look like I have something BIG-and only then if no one's jumped on it. Which doesn't always work out so well, lol. So probably better if I don't bluff Smile
ojisplayin - 25.03.2010, 13:45
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I'd like to add here my personal experience- it is in the game

BADUGI
(Rules are 4 cards dealt, 3 draws, nobody knows what anybody has!)
What you are trying for is the lowest run in all 4 suits- NUTS- A-2-3-4 (1 diamond- 1 heart- 1 spade- 1 club)
This game is FULL of Bluff Players- I have also bluffed, WHEN I AM TOP CHIP HOLDER ONLY!!!

Everyone that bluffs, then just one hand don't bluff,

easily trick you into thinking they are bluffing, per usual, and take all your chips! Grrrrr!!!

kaykyl - 26.03.2010, 00:26
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Against bad players
cocakolakid - 27.03.2010, 22:30
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I bluff when I sense my opponent is not confident with his hand.
BARB711 - 28.03.2010, 14:13
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I watch others
Sisters - 30.03.2010, 09:04
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Hi,


I wouldn't bluff if I had to use the ladies room Razz

It depends on my mood and the situation if I were to bluff or not..

sisters Smile
ratfang - 01.04.2010, 16:59
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If you win while bluffing,Especially a big pot you're more likely to bluff more Embarassed Embarrassing when you get caught.There really is no good or bad time for a bluff,Its whether or not you're feeling lucky at moment,Because you never know your opponents hand....

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gjr1961 - 01.04.2010, 21:39
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I think I only bluffed a couple of times; when I was the dealer and everyone else folded or didn't make a bet. I get really nervous doing it. I don't think I could ever do it in live poker. As a matter of fact, because of how I react to different deals, I really suck at live poker!
Gijan74 - 03.04.2010, 11:54
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I play a lot of freerolls...AND I DO BLUFF :-)

In these freerolls there sits a lot of folks who isn´t that confident and when you bet high they always fold no matter what..So it grows the stack..

Bad maybe..But I´m in it to win :-)
broxi - 03.04.2010, 12:04
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ok ive read everything you posted in topic about bluffing and would agree its good advice to me and makes perfect sense, as for my personal experiences i do bluff more so in freerolls where i get to stage where i dont care if i lose or not as games went too long( everyone knows ive not got the concentration for poker lol) but i do bluff in real money games as well, especially if after playing for a while you realise your opponents are scared of losing money, sometimes its annoying playing hand after hand when the pots are staying small but its the best time to bluff as you know 9 out of 10 times they will fold, and at end of day small pots all add up in the end and once you are up a bit you can always find a better table to go play at
ojisplayin - 04.04.2010, 04:30
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msfilly - 04.04.2010, 11:59
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ratfang - 06.04.2010, 17:43
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WTG SHIRLSPLAY
allight - 07.04.2010, 00:37
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wtg shirls
slotmom - 08.04.2010, 23:57
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wtg Shirls
Sisters - 11.04.2010, 19:58
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Hi,


congrats shirl Very Happy


sisters Smile
shirlsplay - 12.04.2010, 16:57
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omg! thank so very much.what a nice surprize.tytyty
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