The Archive - December Poker Knowledge Contest! Closed! Winner Announced! ojisplayin - 05.12.2009, 17:05 Post subject: December Poker Knowledge Contest! Closed! Winner Announced!
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There are so many variables to consider when you look at a starting hand in hold ‘em.
Let's take a look at POCKET 10's
• What are the blinds and antes?
• What is your chip stack?
• Are you familiar with each player? How have they been playing the last two levels?
• What position are you in for the hand in comparison to the button and blinds?
• What action has happened before you look at your cards?
• What is the chip stack of any player who has acted before you, as well as those still to act?
• Where are you in the tournament?
ON EVERY HAND YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THESE SAME QUESTIONS, ALONG WITH THEIR ANSWERS.
So, with POCKET 10's as a starting point.................
Let's look at two combinations of action and position:
• Middle position with an early raise in front of me.
• On the button, and there is an under-the-gun raise and call in front of me.
Pocket 10s can be dicey, especially if you’ve been card dead for a couple of levels. Any pair looks great when you’ve been dealt K-5o on 11 consecutive hands!
But, "CAN" you keep your discipline and wits about you every single time??
Middle position/raise in front of me:
On a short stack, I’m pushing here unless I’m up against a very tight player.
"OR"
With a deep stack, I’m re-raising here but again ready to get away from the hand if I feel I need to.
On the button/raise and a call in front of me:
I may muck here late in a tourney, even on a short stack. You have an early raiser and a caller, pretty strong action if you are short. You aren’t pushing anyone out of a pot, and you may be way behind with your 10s.
"OR"
Deep in a tourney, I probably fold 10s with this action if I’m deep-stacked. When I’m playing good deep in a tournament, I may muck 10s with no action in middle position. What are you going to do if you’re called with 10s? A very dangerous spot late in position.
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POKER CRUSH STAFF josie46 - 05.12.2009, 17:58 Post subject:
hi , without seeing board id probaly fold, there are 4 cards that beats that, iv lost many of times with As in hole , ty jo23
broxi - 05.12.2009, 21:18 Post subject:
i would go with my gut instinct... and sadly for me im normally wrong but depending on circumstances i would probably play the hand...especially if ive been getting rotten cards id be at the stage that i feel the cards arent getting better so time to play rather than waiting for a great hand and losing chips on the blinds so shortening my stack without playing
valeria - 05.12.2009, 21:28 Post subject:
It all depends what is on the table. It is possible to draw 3 of a kind or a full house off of my pair. Even depending on what cards are on the turn a straight. I would play the hand till I felt the odds were definately against me. I would not play the pair to the river if there were a strong chance of someone already having 2 pair, straight, flush etc...
msfilly - 05.12.2009, 21:30 Post subject:
Folding a bad hand is easy anyone can do that ( which I would absolutely do with the examples given) but folding a good hand is the example of the skillfull art of playing poker.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
shirlsplay - 08.12.2009, 08:59 Post subject:
I would go on.i'd maybe even raise to try and bluff.
slotmom - 08.12.2009, 10:32 Post subject:
I would play and try my best .it would be good exsperence for me
dmoney644 - 08.12.2009, 14:23 Post subject:
I would definitely take alot of the questions in consideration. Definitely knowing how the players at your table has been playing will help, and depending on both stacks of the players and my own stack, the raiser and the caller, if the raiser is shortstacked i would assume that he is about to be hit with the blind and he picked up anything with some paint or a small wired pair, the caller after him may have a strong hand but with just a call, and its around me, if my stack is decent, i would make the call here and look to flop a set, if any over cards to my pair of 10's i am cautious and any bet i would fold if their is an overcard on the board.
if the raiser has a decent stack, you can assume if he leads out on the button, you should assume he must have a strong hand, at worst a big Ace like AK or AQ, but at best, possibly has a big pair bigger than mine.
If my stack is big, and calling his raise anticipating an allin fromt hat player, and it will hardly affect my stack, i may reraise to try and isoolate me and that player, and be prepared to an allin which i would have o call. This is only if i have a big stack, and an allin call, won't hurt too much if i lose.
If my stack is average or or may cost me more than 25% of my stack if i lose, and the raiser has a close stack to mine, i may definitely have to consider folding here.
Worst thing is to jeopardize making it to the money after playing for a couple hours of play and getting around the bubble mark.
So really, the 3 important things to think about is what is the size of my stack vs his,
is he really short stacked, and possibly pushing with what he thinks is the better hand now or the one he is about to get in the blind and be obligated to push with that because of being shortstacked.
and lastly, does the raiser have a good stack and quite a few more blinds left, if so, under the gun raise, usually says Monster hand, and you should definitely think about getting away from the 1010, especially if there is a caller after the raiser before you.
Ok, hope any of that made since, but thats what i'd look at and do.
ojisplayin - 08.12.2009, 16:11 Post subject: DMONEY644- EXCELLENT THINKING & AWESOME INPUT- 500 PC POINTS!!
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Thanks dear, sometimes play great poker, usually when i am thinking of all that you need to when playing, then when you don't pay attention, to all of the questions, you are sure not to play as well as you could be.
Also, thanks for the extra points.
cocakolakid - 09.12.2009, 00:19 Post subject:
depending on my stack will determine how i will play pocket 10s pre-flop.
short stack - call any blind or any raise in hopes others will also contribute to the pot and hoping for a favourable flop
mid stack - may consider same play if i were short stacked but if the blind is a significant amount i may try and win the blinds by going all-in
large stack or chipleader - a small raise enough to filter out the limpers and get a read on those who call. After the flop if no ten comes I will throw out another small raise to get a read again, if it does come i will check and hope for a check-raise opportunity.
soljah11 - 10.12.2009, 00:38 Post subject:
i would go all in and hope ev1 folds
allight - 10.12.2009, 00:55 Post subject:
10s are my worst hand....never seem to win with them, so I would fold them unless deep stacked, then i might call if the price is right to see if i get lucky and flop trips
ojisplayin - 10.12.2009, 14:52 Post subject: Al, FUNNY, but JJ are my demon seed, my loss ratio is, well... A-L-O-T!!
I would GO FOR IT with 10's 4 x more than my "JINXED-ASS" Cowboys!!! gjr1961 - 11.12.2009, 10:12 Post subject:
I think I would fold. It sems like there are a lot of questions that I would want the answers to. I doubt that I could remember all those questions when I am at the table, much less figure out what the answers are.
I am pretty inexperienced but by reading the information here I am learning. Poker is a lot more complicated than I had previously thought. Thank you all for the info.
rsablebomb - 12.12.2009, 04:15 Post subject:
I am not very good at this stuff lately so I would probably call with having a pocket pair
DixiesMom - 30.12.2009, 16:17 Post subject:
If I had pocket 10's I would call a reasonable bet, but not raise and not bet too much until the first three cards had been flipped up, then I would go on from there depending on what those cards were.
josie46 - 30.12.2009, 18:16 Post subject:
i would probly play it but would not raise , in less the flop had a 10, lol ty jo23
sharon030161 - 30.12.2009, 21:21 Post subject:
i would go all in and hopefully everyone would fold. thats what kind of gambler i am
ratfang - 02.01.2010, 19:30 Post subject:
I would look at all options of course,1)I usually win with pocket 10's more so then with pocket rockets,Just my luck I guess,I have beaten AA with 10/10 a few occasions,Always seem to pull the trips.So I would go for it!!
anneandalan - 03.01.2010, 00:21 Post subject:
Now that I read your post, I think I will just print it out and keep it handy...I have burned myself with pocket 10s late in a tourney after what seemed like endless ace-junk, king-junk hands. I guess I just get impatient...I want them to be a better hand than they are. They have come through for me, but clearly that was luck...anyone with a face card has better odds of pairing than the 10s have of becoming trips. I usually just cant figure out how to pay low/middle pairs and try to limp in to see the flop. I think my betting is my weakest point in poker, but I am trying to work on it.
cocakolakid - 03.01.2010, 03:57 Post subject:
coincidentally i recently was dealt pocket 10s in a tournament...i was average stacked and in middle position...early positions had folded...and so raised 3/4 of my stack (significantly more than the big blind)...in hopes to take the blinds...all folded except for the big blind (also the chipleader of the tournament) who calls...the flop shows a 9 5 6...BB goes all-in...I call...cards are shown...pocket 10 for me....and a 9 7 off suit for the BB...LOL! as soon as I saw what he called with...i felt it coming..and sure enough it did...turn draws a 7! river...i forgot....but don't matter...i'm ousted with pocket 10s losing to a 9-7 off suit calling a significant raise pre-flop...LOL! (see what happens when i can't find my mojo)
dmoney644 - 03.01.2010, 04:05 Post subject:
Thats exactly what i was talking about in another thread about best hands not holding up as much online as they do in live games, but i think alot of the reason for this is that online, people will play things that normally they wouldn't do in a live tournament where people can make fun of him or her for playing or calling with such ridiculous hands.
There is no repercussions for people doing it online, as they can just turn off chat if someone bitches too much lol
Also, another factor could be that RNG's aren't so random, thats still debatable at times, but think about it, pokerrooms are trying to make money, what better way for peeps to catch a big hand against an opponent holding the only 2 cards that could beat it, making for a big pot, or in the late stages, hurrying the tournament up as to where it seems the big stacks catch every card and chipleaders seem to win 85% of every hand they play.
These are just theories, no proven truth behind my statements, but they are pretty coincidental aren't they?
cocakolakid - 03.01.2010, 04:52 Post subject:
absolutely - the cards "coincidentally" favour the big stack; another "coincidence" to keep an eye out for that is also favoured seats, not the player - the seat.
ratfang - 03.01.2010, 04:58 Post subject:
That's why Its always good to get a Big Stack in begging of game lol
ojisplayin - 03.01.2010, 05:22 Post subject: Well time to close- TY Crushers!!
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Happy Gaming Always!! Your Poker Crush Staff!dmoney644 - 03.01.2010, 05:27 Post subject:
WTG Gloria on your win! Also, Thanks PC for the Xtra Points, they always come in handy! At this rate, i'll have plenty to donate next Xmas! hehe
broxi - 03.01.2010, 08:59 Post subject:
WTG gloria on your win and wtg guys on the extra points lol
gjr1961 - 03.01.2010, 10:13 Post subject:
Thank you sooo much! I was kinda feeling like a loser today.......this totally cheered me up!!
broxi - 03.01.2010, 11:54 Post subject:
well gloria glad the win has cheered you up...people seem to forget even the small things in life are enough to give someone a lift...and the fact your win has cheered you up so much is great and makes everyone else feel better
ratfang - 04.01.2010, 06:20 Post subject:
Congrats Gloria shortstuff - 04.01.2010, 06:23 Post subject:
wtg Gloria
shirlsplay - 04.01.2010, 20:56 Post subject:
wtg grandglor nice win
msfilly - 04.01.2010, 23:55 Post subject:
WTG winners congrats on your wins
slotmom - 07.01.2010, 14:36 Post subject:
WTG Winners
anneandalan - 07.01.2010, 16:13 Post subject:
congrats Gloria!
